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	<title>Comments on: And They Lived Happily Ever After</title>
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	<description>- the blog formerly known as bookish</description>
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		<title>By: Karie</title>
		<link>http://www.fourth-edition.co.uk/2009/10/and-they-lived-happily-ever-after/comment-page-1/#comment-5961</link>
		<dc:creator>Karie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 16:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bells: thank you :)

@Fad: It is interesting, absolutely. I enjoy how &quot;public outrage&quot; was suddenly not something Daily Mail had a monopoly on - but was used against them. I think my interest lies within that idea - that &quot;public outrage&quot; of the moral sort is no longer reserved for the right-wing but that liberals can use it as a tool too. The idea of &quot;orchestration&quot; says more about the Mail than anything else.

However, I do wonder if public opinion can now be dictated by Mr Brooker, Stephen Fry and Derren Brown?

Adorable, huh? Yup, my coolness is long gone..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bells: thank you :)</p>
<p>@Fad: It is interesting, absolutely. I enjoy how &#8220;public outrage&#8221; was suddenly not something Daily Mail had a monopoly on &#8211; but was used against them. I think my interest lies within that idea &#8211; that &#8220;public outrage&#8221; of the moral sort is no longer reserved for the right-wing but that liberals can use it as a tool too. The idea of &#8220;orchestration&#8221; says more about the Mail than anything else.</p>
<p>However, I do wonder if public opinion can now be dictated by Mr Brooker, Stephen Fry and Derren Brown?</p>
<p>Adorable, huh? Yup, my coolness is long gone..</p>
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		<title>By: Fad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 10:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The communication dynamic surrounding the Moir story is just fascinating.  During the week when the Streisand Effect resulted in the humiliation of Ralph Loren and Trafigura - causing both to withdraw highly questionable legal actions - Jan Moir became its third &#039;victim&#039;.  It astounds me that seemingly inane social networking tools are having such a huge impact on corporations, politics and the press.

The accusations of an agenda and an orchestrated campaign against her were inevitable, and while hive mind mentality was at least in part responsible for helping the story grow, I doubt the controversy would have been so great if there wasn&#039;t some truth behind it.  Like you, I read the story before the title was modified and before other newspapers had even noticed the fury, but it was so illogical and fallacious that I don&#039;t understand how anybody can come out the other end without words like &#039;homophobic&#039; and &#039;idiot&#039; springing to mind.

Oh dear, my comment reads more like a blog entry.  Adorable woollen top btw. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The communication dynamic surrounding the Moir story is just fascinating.  During the week when the Streisand Effect resulted in the humiliation of Ralph Loren and Trafigura &#8211; causing both to withdraw highly questionable legal actions &#8211; Jan Moir became its third &#8216;victim&#8217;.  It astounds me that seemingly inane social networking tools are having such a huge impact on corporations, politics and the press.</p>
<p>The accusations of an agenda and an orchestrated campaign against her were inevitable, and while hive mind mentality was at least in part responsible for helping the story grow, I doubt the controversy would have been so great if there wasn&#8217;t some truth behind it.  Like you, I read the story before the title was modified and before other newspapers had even noticed the fury, but it was so illogical and fallacious that I don&#8217;t understand how anybody can come out the other end without words like &#8216;homophobic&#8217; and &#8216;idiot&#8217; springing to mind.</p>
<p>Oh dear, my comment reads more like a blog entry.  Adorable woollen top btw. ;)</p>
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		<title>By: bells</title>
		<link>http://www.fourth-edition.co.uk/2009/10/and-they-lived-happily-ever-after/comment-page-1/#comment-5958</link>
		<dc:creator>bells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 09:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gosh you look cute! So very lovely. Well done! 

I found the whole Moir thing just intolerable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gosh you look cute! So very lovely. Well done! </p>
<p>I found the whole Moir thing just intolerable.</p>
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		<title>By: Darth Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darth Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 09:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah ... Blur was kinda a favour ;) But you have given lots of great music-recs over the years, so yay for that :) And I LOVE His Dark Materials (So it seem on the book- and music-front I think we see quite a lot more closely, so maybe it&#039;s just TV and movies?)
Re. China Mieville, I should recommend his newest &quot;The City and The City&quot; ... I loved that one. Maybe because it has so many reflections and echoes of cold-war Berlin, but the writing is not to shabby either. Worth giving a go IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah &#8230; Blur was kinda a favour ;) But you have given lots of great music-recs over the years, so yay for that :) And I LOVE His Dark Materials (So it seem on the book- and music-front I think we see quite a lot more closely, so maybe it&#8217;s just TV and movies?)<br />
Re. China Mieville, I should recommend his newest &#8220;The City and The City&#8221; &#8230; I loved that one. Maybe because it has so many reflections and echoes of cold-war Berlin, but the writing is not to shabby either. Worth giving a go IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: Karie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 23:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm .. we used to like being pretentious together, Darthie, but that hardly counts! You did go to see Pulp with me but that was a favour, wasn&#039;t it? And .. remind me if you like His Dark Materials or not? Hey, I have read one China Miéville (UnLunDun) and I only read him on your rec and he wasn&#039;t too shabby. So there! And I sort of forced Crowded House on you!

Re. FlashForward (which i keep calling &#039;FastForward&#039;): I got so bored after watching the pilot that I read the wikipedia entry for the book on which it is based. Interesting concept - horrid excecution. It keeps reminding me of Lost &amp; Heroes - but only all the bad bits to those series. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm .. we used to like being pretentious together, Darthie, but that hardly counts! You did go to see Pulp with me but that was a favour, wasn&#8217;t it? And .. remind me if you like His Dark Materials or not? Hey, I have read one China Miéville (UnLunDun) and I only read him on your rec and he wasn&#8217;t too shabby. So there! And I sort of forced Crowded House on you!</p>
<p>Re. FlashForward (which i keep calling &#8216;FastForward&#8217;): I got so bored after watching the pilot that I read the wikipedia entry for the book on which it is based. Interesting concept &#8211; horrid excecution. It keeps reminding me of Lost &#038; Heroes &#8211; but only all the bad bits to those series.</p>
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		<title>By: Darth Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darth Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 22:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Karie: Heh ... that is actually kinda funny. No, I don&#039;t think we really have. Though, I do agree that Flash Forward is bad. Like Paula I like the concept, but GAH ... the plotting and characterisation is just beyond awfull</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Karie: Heh &#8230; that is actually kinda funny. No, I don&#8217;t think we really have. Though, I do agree that Flash Forward is bad. Like Paula I like the concept, but GAH &#8230; the plotting and characterisation is just beyond awfull</p>
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		<title>By: Karie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 21:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kirsten: Charlie Brooker can be very hit-or-miss, but this article was spot on, I thought.

@DK: Have we ever agreed on anything popculture bar Joss Whedon? Hmmm.. besides I&#039;m only two episodes into True Blood. 

@Paula: Poor Jack Davenport. His character reads like &quot;they couldn&#039;t get Hugh Grant, so they got me instead. Sorry&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kirsten: Charlie Brooker can be very hit-or-miss, but this article was spot on, I thought.</p>
<p>@DK: Have we ever agreed on anything popculture bar Joss Whedon? Hmmm.. besides I&#8217;m only two episodes into True Blood. </p>
<p>@Paula: Poor Jack Davenport. His character reads like &#8220;they couldn&#8217;t get Hugh Grant, so they got me instead. Sorry&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Paula</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 00:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liesl looks great.  Knitting sounds like a good stress reduction plan.

I tried to like Flash forward.  I liked the idea of it but its so badly written that the characters are like cardboard cut outs.

Charlie Booker&quot;s Guardian article is the best thing I&#039;ve read in a while.  The Daily mail is a sad and hateful rag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liesl looks great.  Knitting sounds like a good stress reduction plan.</p>
<p>I tried to like Flash forward.  I liked the idea of it but its so badly written that the characters are like cardboard cut outs.</p>
<p>Charlie Booker&#8221;s Guardian article is the best thing I&#8217;ve read in a while.  The Daily mail is a sad and hateful rag.</p>
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		<title>By: Darth Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darth Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 22:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh ... and that Liesl thingy looks great on you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh &#8230; and that Liesl thingy looks great on you!</p>
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		<title>By: Darth Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darth Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 22:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Sidebar: I sooooo don&#039;t get what people see in True Blood. I personally think it is an utter pile of poo. Just goes to show that taste is a strange thing ... well, at least mine may be.  I feel slightly freaky,since everyone seems to like it a lot. Oh well *shrug*)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Sidebar: I sooooo don&#8217;t get what people see in True Blood. I personally think it is an utter pile of poo. Just goes to show that taste is a strange thing &#8230; well, at least mine may be.  I feel slightly freaky,since everyone seems to like it a lot. Oh well *shrug*)</p>
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